No PMO War XL

05/01/24 - 06/19/24
Thoughts & Actions - You can read and learn as much as you want but...
Many are proposing reading books about this problem, listening to podcasts, watching educational videos, etc. This is excellent advice because it encourages you to understand the problem and gives you a different and objective perspective of the situation. Indeed, the first step toward problem-solving is recognizing that you have a problem. But for me, this was not much of a help in the end. I found a clean structure driven by specific, precise goals much more helpful. (But please don't be ignorant, continue to broaden your mind, and be sharp.) 1. Set your goals, make them realistic, add a time frame, and make sure they are achievable. 2. Make a daily list of tasks. 3. Make your day busy and your mind occupied. Prevent unnecessary and harmful thoughts by necessary and improving-oriented actions.
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Its Time.
A young monk named Ikkyu was waiting for his Zen master to arrive when he accidentally knocked the master’s tea cup onto the hard floor, shattering it into many pieces. It wasn’t any ordinary tea cup either, it was a beautiful antique that his master treasured and considered his prized possession. Upon hearing the master’s footsteps, Ikkyu panicked and did the only thing he could think of: scooped up the tea cup pieces into his hand and then tucked them into his robe, safely out of view. “Why do people have to die?” he said to the master as soon as he entered the room. “Everything in the world experiences both life and death,” the master said, “Everything must die eventually, it’s perfectly natural.” “Everything?” “Absolutely, everything,” the master replied. “Master,” Ikkyu said, pulling the broken pieces of the tea cup out from his robe, “it was time for your cup to die” It was a small anectode mentioned by om swami in his blog. https://os.me/a-difficult-decision/ Similarly its time for our habits to engage in non organic ways of having sexual pleasure. Time to ditch them to be more constructive. Let's be passionate in constructive habits and get joy which is certainly lasting and can set you in a FLOW STATE.
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How to tackle distraction?
Understanding Distractions Such distractions cause a tide of emotions to rise, a tsunami of desires, shaking their resolve, and crushing their strength to stay the course, to stay firm. Yogic and Vedic texts talk a great deal about distractions, and how they are great obstacles. They can make all the difference between winning and losing, between success and failure. You may want to read – The Practice of Resolve. Let me help you understand distractions and ways to overcome them. They are of two types as follows: 1. External distractions triggering inner reactions Let us assume, you committed to being a vegetarian and giving up alcohol. Everything is going fine until you are invited to that get-together you can not afford to skip. Platters of your once-favorite non-vegetarian dishes as well as vintage wine adorn the dining table. You feel tempted. Further, the folks around you force you to have some. You are given all sorts of reasoning and arguments to partake of what is at hand and not worry about your vow. Under social pressure and your own latent desire, you give in to temptation. In this case, an external environment, the sight of delicious food, triggered a whole heap of thoughts that weakened your resolve. Up until you arrived at this party, you were at ease, but now, suddenly your inner world is in turmoil and you let your heart rule your mind. In every likelihood, a sense of guilt will drape you soon after the party. Guilt weakens one’s consciousness. There are two ways to emerge a winner while battling against external distractions: a. Remove yourself physically A conducive environment helps a great deal in executing any plan. In the present example, avoid going to such places, parties, where it is but natural that you will be offered everything contrary to what’s good for you. After all, the chances of emerging spotless from working in a coal mine are but remote. Unless of course, you exercise great caution and extraordinary care. If changing your physical environment is not possible sometimes, follow step b, as below: b. Make yourself clear Granted, some people may think you are arrogant, that you no longer care, or that you have changed, and so forth. Let them. Trust me, let them. If they really love you, they will not think any of these things and if they do not, does it matter anyway what they think? Ultimately, it is you alone who will be bearing the consequences, paying for your choices, at that time, no one else will be able to help you. So, stand by what you stand for. This always worked for me; before I renounced, for years I attended events of all sorts but never even once did I compromise my own principles. People around me understood and accepted it. 2. Inner thoughts triggering external actions Distractions of this type can be equally hard to manage. For example, let us say, you recently quit smoking. Day-in-day-out, you were living up to your own expectations and you did not smoke for ten days. One day, out of the blue, you happen to recollect the image of a cigarette, you try hard to not think of smoking but the cigarette keeps coming back to your mind. You experience restlessness and the compulsion to smoke. The thought of smoking overpowers you to the degree that you get up and buy yourself a pack. There are two ways to overcome a distraction of this type: a. Take your mind off it Do not think about not doing the prohibited, instead just take a deep breath and focus your mind elsewhere. You cannot overcome thoughts of non-action by thinking about not acting on them. You must simply, gently, shift the spotlight of your thoughts. Change the scenery, get up, move around, win over a distraction with another one, a better one, if necessary. Do whatever it takes but do not give in to the temptation. b. Exercise patience (postpone) This method is more powerful than you might think. Just give your mind some bait, tell your mind that you will revisit the idea after an hour or two hours or something like that. Just let the storm of distraction pass, let your thoughts settle, let your mind calm down. If you can rein in the horses while distraction comes attacking, you will remain focused and win the battle. You will emerge a winner; a stronger and more confident person. Now, regardless of the nature of the distraction, let me share with you the two most potent questions you can ask yourself to help you make the right decision, always. Yes, always. 1. Is this my best move? A chess grandmaster unfailingly asks one question before making each move in chess, and that is, is this my best move? That often prompts the player to think more, think better, think out of the box, and come up with extraordinary moves. Before you give in to temptation, just before you decide to do something, a moment before taking action, ask yourself: is this my best move, or, can I play better? If you are honest with yourself, you will find it easy to dissipate your distractions with minimal effort. 2. What is the most that will happen? Remember, in the case of self-doubt, the best question was, what is the worst that can happen? Well, in removing distractions, you have to ask exactly the opposite. Let us say you are distracted and really want to drink alcohol, ask yourself, what’s the most that will happen? An ephemeral pleasure of a few hours, if that? Is that it? Is that enough to justify you compromising your resolve? And if so, is that your best move?! Do you know who your greatest friend is, the one who can always stand by you and help you make the right decisions and make sure you tread the noble path? You. And your worst enemy? You. Ātmaiva hyātmanō bandhurātmaiva ripurātmanaḥ… (Bhagavad Gita, 6.5) You alone are your best friend and your own worst enemy. A slave, however well paid, however well kept, remains a slave. Go on! conquer yourself and be the king of your own empire, a master of your own mind, a captain of your own ship, and live on your own terms. Discover yourself, your own truth. Peace. Swami Source : www.os.me
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Stuck in an endless cycle of guilt for as long as I remember
For 7 years ive been hooked to this horrible deed, for years ive been telling myself "one last time", only recently have I truly realised the complications this will have on my future relationships and now more than ever I'm encouraged to quit, but I'm struggling to get through this initial stage. The habit is compulsive, I don't get horny or anything it just happens, even though I want to quit Im struggling to overcome the compulsiveness of the behaviour, any advice?
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"New Year, New Me" same lie different year
It's time to make these New Year's resolution come true. Every year we lie to ourselfs about changing our lives and becoming better. In fact we start very proud and after 2 weeks we are back to our old habits. So make this year different and make sure you keep to your promisses. Cuz the worst thing to do is to lie to yourself. How can you be honest and thrustworthy to others if you can't even speak the thruths to yourself. Come on bruvs let's level up and make something of this year. Let's make ourself proud. Happy newyear Cheers
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Will that war start on time?
Hi, I wonder if that war will begin as planned or postponed again? the group is small and I think there's a problem with lack of promotion of it. Some time ago few youtubers talked about it and there was over 1000 participants each time.
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I'm going to write a book during this war.
My previous post talked about my NoFap journey and how I was on and off (with streaks being around 3 months on average) for the last 8 years. For some reason, a single relapse in mid-November triggered a chain of thoughts, temptations, and events that for some reason got me feeling like all my efforts during these 8 years were wiped. One of the things that I feel helps is the meditation on our mortality and how precious each moment is. I'll try to discover deep-rooted issues within myself and hopefully arrive at the cause. I think I'm going to be able to do this by writing a self-help book, which I'll call Reflections. Aiming to write a page for each day for the duration of this 45-day war.
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Back on track..
Hey, gentlemen, It's been a while. Last time I participated in a war, was 2 years ago. During these 2 years, I was doing relatively well, with streaks lasting 3 to 6 months on average. But recently, around mid November, I made the big mistake of relasping (just MO), and that for some reason got me back in time years ago. I, unfortunately, regressed into the wicked and most degenerate forms of porn and fantasies again, and I don't feel good about it at all. I'm trying to get some accountability again and find some friends to motivate ourselves as we get back on track.
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Reconsidering Your Mindset and PMO (Part 2)
I like to bring up the read.easypeasymethod.org book quite often. It really does take a mindset shift when it comes to getting ahead of the addiction. I used to struggle with this so fricking much, and I relate to it with you. Though, I wrote a few things down this evening when it came to reflecting on my journey in the past: These theories delve into a few topics that the book touches upon a bit . They're refined contextualizations of what has been said in the book, but the second was sort of a shower thought that I had during the morning, and it stuck with me. All in all, please know that it is possible, just as it was for me! "Think of it as 'Un-brainwashing', which targets subconscious perspectives you might not have realized you held: " • 1.Abysmal-Redline-Theory: Every time you masturbate, the “redline” or “standard” is raised, where there is a tendency to seek "better" material after desensitization, we all know that (right, you know that? Sorry if you don't. Actually, I am sorry if you don't, and I express my condolences.). In the end, PMO only has one outcome, and that is orgasm, so you might as well have stopped after the very first session. Because the red line always ascends, with no other outcome to incentivize the ascension, you never will satiate “just a peak” because you already have, which is a good thing. In essence, you might think it's a different thing every time when it clearly will be a same-case-scenario, aesthetically and in circumstance. Please, don't suffer as much as I have just to realize this many months later. (Even before the thought of ever wanting to arrives, the ride is already Joever, and acknowledge that. Not in that you failed to quit before you started, but you have literally, already failed the desired orgasm before ever committing to it and even after doing so) • 2. Means-Ends-Theory: Why would you do PMO if you’re defeating the purpose of PMO? When you achieve a goal, the energy for achieving that goal is being expended, especially if your goal is to achieve an emotion. After PMO, you feel bad even though you want satisfaction. Aren’t you then expending the energy for feeling satisfied in an attempt to feel satisfied? Doesn't make sense, does it? In other words, you’re actively forcing your body to feel an emotion through physiological mechanisms, which makes this emotion artificial. To delineate, achieving goals where emotion isn’t the target naturally results in you feeling worthwhile emotions, particularly positive ones. Even with boredom, your objective would narrow down from not wanting to be bored to something actionable. When addicted, compulsion leads to the goal intrinsically being to achieve an emotional state. That's why it's so infuriating when people (addicts) say that porn does in fact give them pleasure. The stress is in the guise of pleasure. Also, why else would people often fall back again after feeling worse off, if the brain associates feelings of post-session guilt with needing one more session? SOMEHOW, your brain associates the guilt with other feelings now, woops. So even in that, it doesn't satiate "just a peak". In all honesty, why spend your time forcefully depleting yourself of the capacity to feel when you could spend your time not doing that, and I know that sounds like too much of an actual paradox, but I'd argue that you felt the same way before coming onto this post. From that logic, you might be able to construct the point that it's more sensible to feel the urge than it is to masturbate and get rid of your entire emotional bank. Why throw the baby out with the bath water? It's so cute! It’s human. It's, familiar. It's... okay. • 3. I have nothing to add here, I just like patterns of 3. Anyways, I am a happy non-user, and I hope you will be, too! And remember, you aren't your thoughts, they're the little monster's. Hopefully, I just took care of the Big Monster for you, the brainwashing. Fear is the only pang, but why fear when you know there is nothing clogging your brain to reinforce the fear? It’s just the little monster starting to starve and die. I hope everyone finds the best way to live through it.
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Trying to Debunk Your Addiction: A Hypothesis (EasyPeasyContextualization Prequel)
Part 1: So First the Argument from Utility: “People tend to think that their way of doing things is the best way, without considering other ways of doing things. Why is that? Well, to start off, there must be some sort of recurring self-fulfilling prophecy that reinforces what a person does as the correct way. The error is that this person’s self-fulfilling prophecy is exclusive of the fact of whether or not there are other ways of doing things; the only important thing is that your subconscious believes “(a) can't be wrong because whenever (x) occurs, (y) always happens" (e.g. Whenever I do this thing, that thing always happens). One glaring issue of relying on a self-fulfilling prophecy is that it disregards the merits of the means for which something is achieved, a common mean involving mental taxation. Mental taxation, if anything, is often unnecessary, which is exactly the issue; you’re diminishing your human experience for the sake of your method when you could be counteracting this diminishment with thorough evaluation and a follow through on said evaluation. A common cure for dealing with these self-diminishing, self-fulfilling prophecies is the suspension of belief/subjective consideration." This first step is often the reason why many people are still stagnant or without resolve, either because of two things: • 1. They are unaware of the possibility of another method for accomplishing the exact same thing • 2. Reconsideration/suspension of belief is seen as some sort of condescending rite of passage, because the authority they appeal to is either someone else or worse, themselves, wherein they do not adhere to “intellectual play” or generally entertaining opposing viewpoints; it’s too bothersome to reconsider for some. * A solution to this ignorance and a rebuttal to the above fallacy is the argument from utility, it goes like this: "Reality is subjective, but what is truly objective is utility, how useful something is. Therefore, whatever has utility or is more useful is actually real. No matter how much you suspend your belief, what matters is the level of utility that suspension of a certain belief has. If the suspension of that belief is in fact useful, it will become your new, objective reality.” Part 2: Suspension of Belief/Subjective Consideration: Let's focus on the route of subjectification. For addicts, the ritual of PMO isn't entirely pleasurable because they feel bad after the experience; therefore, this pleasure lays under the scrutiny of subjectivity for not objectively encompassing the point of PMO, wherein pleasure is diminished directly after PMO. If this pleasure has the capacity to be subjective of the experience, are you then experiencing truly authentic pleasure? In other words, if there is still room for subjectivity in terms of enjoyment, that would imply that this experience is not objectively pleasurable, isn't that so? If it isn't objectively pleasurable, unlike most things in life, you'd have no other choice but to suspend your belief, while relying on PMO's end-goal-result as a basis for whether or not there is any pleasure at all, which in this case is a really lackluster and meaningless end-goal you'll find out in the end. Just keep reading. Considering the end-goal, is PMO actually pleasurable*? If it was objectively pleasurable, you'd feel joy* during and after every session, similar to how recreational activities work (after the session, you actually do not feel that so-called "joy"). If something that's perceived as joyful detracts from said joy, then are you really experiencing joy? Couldn't it be a form of stress*, for instance? It also helps to know that we are talking about emotions, not preferences. People have preferences towards what they enjoy, which is fine. Enjoying PMO is a preference for some (somehow I have no clue how people enjoy that but they do I guess), but this preference of yours is not inherently enjoyable because the entire point is removed. Your enjoyment is detracted from what you're supposed to "enjoy"? (I'm assuming that you don't feel joy after the session, but do you?). Therefore, PMO being an acceptable preference is miscellaneous, and what we should really be focusing on is the subjectivity of emotion, not the subjectivity of interest. Porn as an expression of the human condition is interesting, but you indulging in it by PMO isn't inherently enjoyable if enjoyment is detracted after a session (and arguable during it, too!). That being said, you would eventually lead yourself to the conclusion of PMO not being interesting, since it isn't inherently enjoyable; the point of PMO becomes contradictory, in that the interest is derived from the so-called "pleasure" (Remember, it isn't actually pleasure). My approach involved recognizing that I derived so-called pleasure from PMO being inherently interesting, when it clearly doesn't satiate a peak (it already has satiated just a peak, and therefore it can't be interesting anymore. It's the same, singular outcome over and over again, regardless of aesthetic or circumstance). I then realized that interest derived from the so-called gaining of "pleasure" could not exist due to the recognition that PMO's so-called gaining of "pleasure" for me was actually a form of stress, stress in the guise of a feeling similar to pleasure (it's not pleasure). Before, noticed how I literally did not say PMO is interesting. In your circumstance, PMO is a flawed method for engaging with porn. That's why people actually like creating porn as an art form. It's not "porn" to them, it's simply another category of creativity, hypothetically. Part 3: ୧⍤⃝ Sampling the Moment of Revelation This is where it gets mind blowing: If you're using the Easypeasymethod, its effectiveness comes from acknowledging that you feel pleasure before PMO (as a non-user), but not after PMO. Because you don't feel pleasure after PMO, you are actively detracting from pleasure <- (revelation?). Porn-users (addicts) seek PMO in the hopes of not feeling the stress, when it's simply the little monster who actively engages in the same mechanisms (stress guised as pleasure > the urge) as you do when PMOing! PMO-users (addicts) haven't acknowledged that PMO is actually the depletion of pleasure and actually entirely stress, and because they're unaware that they're physiologically forcing themselves to actively deplete pleasure <- (revelation?) they only double down on the belief that they gain "pleasure," when pleasure is actually sought outside of PMO all together, where it's not inauthentically stressed, but authentically experienced through any other activity but PMO. As technological innovation would follow, we've created an extraordinary vice. The little monsters dies as you die, so when you catch the little monster dying, (you've already experienced PMO...) ^ This bubble right here, might just be the silver-lining that your moment of revelation would follow if you were to continue on your journey, convincingly so. Arguably, two people come to this conclusion: • Those who've spent years addicted and are now of old age • Those who follow the utility of their insights through enough obsession. <- This was me right here The easypeasymethod is a form of this obsession, and there's many more (e.g. The Freedom Model) heck you might already be half-way there, but all you need is an individual's substantial experience. Journaling for an audience, you guys specifically, helped a lot. But, I think this is the secret code, a giant facade! Non-users either haven't endured the stress-gauntlet of PMO or they've acknowledged it! Are you willing to acknowledge that you're already a happy non-user?
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