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Concepts & Things That Helped Me In The Past

#1 "You peek you lose". This is somewhat self explanatory. I had a bad habit of peeking and edging in the past. Sometimes I would edge, get guilty and then last a couple days before inevitably relapsing. I eventually realized that even the simple act of just purposely looking at my whack-off material (but not whacking it) would put me in such great danger of relapsing that I decided just the act of peeking would meant I have relapsed, in essence. When I peeked, it was like I would inevitably relapse even if it was days later. In other words, peeking is serious, serious business. Don't do it. And to expand on that, try to not observe anything that stimulates you in that way. And to expand-expand on that… try to not check girls out during the daytime…

#2 The Cold Turkey software program. I can't remember where I saw this recommended (Reddit, NoFap, maybe even Conquered Self?) but it's an extremely simple program that outright blocks websites that you choose to be blocked. For me, the root of my addiction is at the computer, on the internet, so being able to block yourself from your sources is a handy tool.

#3 "Fight is never over". Even if you relapse, you just reset your counter and keep trying. Just because you relapsed doesn't mean that you are no longer a fapstronaut. What does an actual astronaut do when something goes wrong? He picks up the pieces and moves on. You might have messed up but you keep nofapping. That means, you do your best to not binge. And you set up for tomorrow and think about what you can do differently.

#4 Drastic computer change. This one is a bit different. It involves realizing that the entirety of your addiction is connected to your computer. The root of our addiction is the computer (because honestly, who still uses magazines these days… but I guess if you do, you'll have to throw them out the same way a guy deletes his porn stash) or if you're unlucky, your phone.

I am listing this one last because it is outlandish. If you have a smartphone, swap your SIM card out into an older model phone so you can't browse videos. Maybe if you want to succeed at NoFap really badly, you'll buy a burner phone that has no video capabilities (calls only). Keyword drastic. I know that desktop computers are integrated parts of our lives. We will have to inevitably at some point in the day log on to send out an e-mail, check up on an order. But the point of this concept is to leave it at that. And don't use computers AT ALL unless you have to. We all have to in order to check in to Conquered Self, I know this, and myself personally I need to use it to access my company's work schedule (which only takes 10 minutes but it's something that absolutely have to do) other than that in theory I should be turning it off after all urgent business is taken care of.

So it's like living life computer free except for the urgent businesses. And then lastly the most outlandish part is, when you are safe and capable to do this, unplugging everything from your computer and basically never using it again for a month or so. Stuff like that.

Attached is a very neat flowchart that you may or may not have seen. Most of my stuff is fluff but I am contributing what I can so hopefully the flowchart is more interesting than all of that.

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Concepts & Things That Helped Me In The Past
#1 "You peek you lose". This is somewhat self explanatory. I had a bad habit of peeking and edging in the past. Sometimes I would edge, get guilty and then last a couple days before inevitably relapsing. I eventually realized that even the simple act of just purposely looking at my whack-off material (but not whacking it) would put me in such great danger of relapsing that I decided just the act of peeking would meant I have relapsed, in essence. When I peeked, it was like I would inevitably relapse even if it was days later. In other words, peeking is serious, serious business. Don't do it. And to expand on that, try to not observe anything that stimulates you in that way. And to expand-expand on that... try to not check girls out during the daytime... #2 The Cold Turkey software program. I can't remember where I saw this recommended (Reddit, NoFap, maybe even Conquered Self?) but it's an extremely simple program that outright blocks websites that you choose to be blocked. For me, the root of my addiction is at the computer, on the internet, so being able to block yourself from your sources is a handy tool. #3 "Fight is never over". Even if you relapse, you just reset your counter and keep trying. Just because you relapsed doesn't mean that you are no longer a fapstronaut. What does an actual astronaut do when something goes wrong? He picks up the pieces and moves on. You might have messed up but you keep nofapping. That means, you do your best to not binge. And you set up for tomorrow and think about what you can do differently. #4 Drastic computer change. This one is a bit different. It involves realizing that the entirety of your addiction is connected to your computer. The root of our addiction is the computer (because honestly, who still uses magazines these days... but I guess if you do, you'll have to throw them out the same way a guy deletes his porn stash) or if you're unlucky, your phone. I am listing this one last because it is outlandish. If you have a smartphone, swap your SIM card out into an older model phone so you can't browse videos. Maybe if you want to succeed at NoFap really badly, you'll buy a burner phone that has no video capabilities (calls only). Keyword drastic. I know that desktop computers are integrated parts of our lives. We will have to inevitably at some point in the day log on to send out an e-mail, check up on an order. But the point of this concept is to leave it at that. And don't use computers AT ALL unless you have to. We all have to in order to check in to Conquered Self, I know this, and myself personally I need to use it to access my company's work schedule (which only takes 10 minutes but it's something that absolutely have to do) other than that in theory I should be turning it off after all urgent business is taken care of. So it's like living life computer free except for the urgent businesses. And then lastly the most outlandish part is, when you are safe and capable to do this, unplugging everything from your computer and basically never using it again for a month or so. Stuff like that. Attached is a very neat flowchart that you may or may not have seen. Most of my stuff is fluff but I am contributing what I can so hopefully the flowchart is more interesting than all of that.
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Woah. That flow chart is spot on.

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Woah. That flow chart is spot on.
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I thought about making an EPC-diagram similar to your flowchart this morning.

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I thought about making an EPC-diagram similar to your flowchart this morning.
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At "I'm just looking" you have already failed.

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At "I'm just looking" you have already failed.
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Awesome chart! So helpful, so true …

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Awesome chart! So helpful, so true ...
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1,2 & 3 a great tips but I just don't get 4. My life is technology I'm way more addicted to it than PMO, I think it is a mostly positive relation (with tech). I instead used programs like cold turkey to lock them down as much as possible. A problem I'm having with cold turkey is that the default list only contains the top 300 sites so it was fairly easy to bypass (does anyone have a more through list?). But every time I relapsed I blocked 10 extra sites so it is getting hard to bypass (although still trivial (now I've made myself curious how hard it is, I can't try, not even with the excuse of blocking more sites))

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1,2 & 3 a great tips but I just don't get 4. My life is technology I'm way more addicted to it than PMO, I think it is a mostly positive relation (with tech). I instead used programs like cold turkey to lock them down as much as possible. A problem I'm having with cold turkey is that the default list only contains the top 300 sites so it was fairly easy to bypass (does anyone have a more through list?). But every time I relapsed I blocked 10 extra sites so it is getting hard to bypass (although still trivial (now I've made myself curious how hard it is, I can't try, not even with the excuse of blocking more sites))
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I actually did not make the chart, but I'm sure a reverse image search will find its original creator, some guy on the subreddit for nofap (/r/nofap if i recall correctly)

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yeah all you can really do is block all of the sites you can, and I guess when you attempt to bypass, add whatever site it is you're using to bypass to the block list.

I really don't think there are any pre-made lists. Maybe you can be the first to create one, to find almost every little corner/crack/crevice where there can be bypass. You would be Nofap hero to go down in history to do such.

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I actually did not make the chart, but I'm sure a reverse image search will find its original creator, some guy on the subreddit for nofap (/r/nofap if i recall correctly) @CruelPi yeah all you can really do is block all of the sites you can, and I guess when you attempt to bypass, add whatever site it is you're using to bypass to the block list. I really don't think there are any pre-made lists. Maybe you can be the first to create one, to find almost every little corner/crack/crevice where there can be bypass. You would be Nofap hero to go down in history to do such.
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this is perfectly put.

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this is perfectly put.
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@Cursed the thing is, if I try find ways to bypass it I'll relapse. (Since is impossible to find loopholes without seeing something and is't a slippery slope from there)

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@Cursed the thing is, if I try find ways to bypass it I'll relapse. (Since is impossible to find loopholes without seeing something and is't a slippery slope from there)
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